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		<title>By: S P Wanabe</title>
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		<dc:creator>S P Wanabe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 12:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>True.... take this simple test: Do you use your all powerful admin level account on your laptops to do everything from browsing blackhat to reading emails. Are you using it now? I understand real pros regularly spend their time rebuilding their lab PC, but the rest of us.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>True&#8230;. take this simple test: Do you use your all powerful admin level account on your laptops to do everything from browsing blackhat to reading emails. Are you using it now? I understand real pros regularly spend their time rebuilding their lab PC, but the rest of us&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Starks</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Starks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 14:32:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have seen this a lot with my colleagues.  Thankfully, I can say for the most part that I practice what I preach at home.  But since it&#039;s my IT environment I get to make the rules.  And if I deem something to be unnecessary then I don&#039;t lose any sleep over it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have seen this a lot with my colleagues.  Thankfully, I can say for the most part that I practice what I preach at home.  But since it&#8217;s my IT environment I get to make the rules.  And if I deem something to be unnecessary then I don&#8217;t lose any sleep over it.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Honan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian Honan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 09:46:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post and some well pointed insights.

There is another element that people often forget in this type of argument.  If an attacker is to select your organisation as a potential target they very often take a holistic approach to how they plan their attack.  Attackers like water will always take the path of least resistance.  It does not take much effort to identify key personnel within an organisation, e.g. CEO, CIO, CSO, IT staff etc.  Targetting these individuals&#039; home PCs can provide very rich pickings;
How many of the above people work on corporate data on their home PCs?
How many of the above people use different passwords for personal and work use?
How many of the above people have VPN connectivity to the corporate LAN form their home PC?

So I would argue that as information security professionals we have a duty of care to ourselves and our families sensitive information, and to our employers to be always &quot;switched on&quot;.

As Thomas Jefferson said &quot;The price of freedom is eternal vigilance&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post and some well pointed insights.</p>
<p>There is another element that people often forget in this type of argument.  If an attacker is to select your organisation as a potential target they very often take a holistic approach to how they plan their attack.  Attackers like water will always take the path of least resistance.  It does not take much effort to identify key personnel within an organisation, e.g. CEO, CIO, CSO, IT staff etc.  Targetting these individuals&#8217; home PCs can provide very rich pickings;<br />
How many of the above people work on corporate data on their home PCs?<br />
How many of the above people use different passwords for personal and work use?<br />
How many of the above people have VPN connectivity to the corporate LAN form their home PC?</p>
<p>So I would argue that as information security professionals we have a duty of care to ourselves and our families sensitive information, and to our employers to be always &#8220;switched on&#8221;.</p>
<p>As Thomas Jefferson said &#8220;The price of freedom is eternal vigilance&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Dr.InfoSec</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dr.InfoSec</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 01:12:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like what you have to say and agree with many of your points. However, I believe you&#039;re mixing two different concepts in order to make your points: 1) security pros in the work vs home environment and 2) how others react to security controls/policies.

Regarding 1) security pros are people just like anybody else and have to manage their own time/lives given the risk environment. Indeed, it means that home security practices are not as thorough as they are at work. But I would argue that this is just the way it should be. At work, you are paid for your time (and your security input), presumably to help the business in its profitable endeavors. At home, you are primarily liable only to yourself and your family for food &amp; shelter. If your spouse or your family could pay your security salary to monitor and enforce enterprise-class controls at home, why would you go to work at all. The level of security needed at home cannot be the same as required at work as both the risks and the users are vastly different.

Regarding 2) security pros are people just like anybody else and have to lead the way by acting within the confines of well established security parameters (i.e. policies). Of course, as you pointed out, if those parameters are too strict, you will often find that the IT and/or security folks grant themselves shortcuts which potentially weaken security of the entire organization.

As a faculty member, I have the unique privilege of being able to shape young minds by providing insights into security best practices. However, I never pass an opportunity to cover the meaning of good governance and the necessity for balanced security controls that work for everyone, including IT.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like what you have to say and agree with many of your points. However, I believe you&#8217;re mixing two different concepts in order to make your points: 1) security pros in the work vs home environment and 2) how others react to security controls/policies.</p>
<p>Regarding 1) security pros are people just like anybody else and have to manage their own time/lives given the risk environment. Indeed, it means that home security practices are not as thorough as they are at work. But I would argue that this is just the way it should be. At work, you are paid for your time (and your security input), presumably to help the business in its profitable endeavors. At home, you are primarily liable only to yourself and your family for food &amp; shelter. If your spouse or your family could pay your security salary to monitor and enforce enterprise-class controls at home, why would you go to work at all. The level of security needed at home cannot be the same as required at work as both the risks and the users are vastly different.</p>
<p>Regarding 2) security pros are people just like anybody else and have to lead the way by acting within the confines of well established security parameters (i.e. policies). Of course, as you pointed out, if those parameters are too strict, you will often find that the IT and/or security folks grant themselves shortcuts which potentially weaken security of the entire organization.</p>
<p>As a faculty member, I have the unique privilege of being able to shape young minds by providing insights into security best practices. However, I never pass an opportunity to cover the meaning of good governance and the necessity for balanced security controls that work for everyone, including IT.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Glass</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan Glass</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 00:58:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At first blush I became a bit indignant but I then realized I do practice what I preach... in fact, we have instituted rigorous change control to the point where there can be no exceptions without going through an exception process.  Every change that is to be completed is run through a series of approvals and is compared to existing policy. In addition, we regularly audit configurations looking for exactly the kind of end-around configurations you describe (and yes, we do find them).

I guess the moral of my long-winded reply is that with a good security policy, proper CM and audit we can &quot;eat our own dog food&quot; by setting up checks and balances (watchers for the watchers if you will).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At first blush I became a bit indignant but I then realized I do practice what I preach&#8230; in fact, we have instituted rigorous change control to the point where there can be no exceptions without going through an exception process.  Every change that is to be completed is run through a series of approvals and is compared to existing policy. In addition, we regularly audit configurations looking for exactly the kind of end-around configurations you describe (and yes, we do find them).</p>
<p>I guess the moral of my long-winded reply is that with a good security policy, proper CM and audit we can &#8220;eat our own dog food&#8221; by setting up checks and balances (watchers for the watchers if you will).</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Hay &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Security Catalyst Post - Do as I Say, Not as I Do</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew Hay &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Security Catalyst Post - Do as I Say, Not as I Do</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 00:35:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The sad and unfortunate truth is that security professionals do not always practice what they preach&#8230; [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Graydon McKee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Graydon McKee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 16:48:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great Post!  Sometimes it hurts when a post hits a bit close to home but we all need to hear it once in a while.  Keep up the good work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great Post!  Sometimes it hurts when a post hits a bit close to home but we all need to hear it once in a while.  Keep up the good work.</p>
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