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	<title>Comments on: Online Security for Kids: How the New York Times article got it wrong</title>
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		<title>By: Online Security for Kids: How the New York Times article got it wrong &#124; Pandora's Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.securitycatalyst.com/online-security-for-kids-how-the-new-york-times-article-got-it-wrong/comment-page-1/#comment-536</link>
		<dc:creator>Online Security for Kids: How the New York Times article got it wrong &#124; Pandora's Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 13:15:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Enough said. Here’s the article… Online Security for Kids: How the New York Times article got it wrong By Trish Smith [...]</description>
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		<title>By: IT Security &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Cyber Bullying A Greater Threat than Sexual Predation Online</title>
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		<dc:creator>IT Security &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Cyber Bullying A Greater Threat than Sexual Predation Online</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 19:43:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Trish Smith at Security Catalyst questioned the relevance of that conclusion, took a better look at the research and asked a few more pertinent questions:  [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Snippets - Monday, 9th February 2009 &#124; GrampaSaidSo.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>Snippets - Monday, 9th February 2009 &#124; GrampaSaidSo.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 18:26:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Online Security for Kids: How the New York Times article got it &#8230;  By trish.smith  If Mr. Stone had written an article about that, he’d have captured the real story of child safety on the internet. Note from Michael Santarcangelo: This an other reasons have led to the creation of our “Building the Family Safety Net” &#8230;   The Security Catalyst - http://www.securitycatalyst.com/ [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Online Security for Kids: How the New York Times article got it &#8230;  By trish.smith  If Mr. Stone had written an article about that, he’d have captured the real story of child safety on the internet. Note from Michael Santarcangelo: This an other reasons have led to the creation of our “Building the Family Safety Net” &#8230;   The Security Catalyst &#8211; <a href="http://www.securitycatalyst.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.securitycatalyst.com/</a> [...]</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 15:34:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Call me stupid if you want, but as an informational security professional and a father of a 3yr old.  There is an expectable risk level for my child and his activities.  Over the holidays we took him to a farm operated and managed by trusted family members.  We let him ride on the back of the feed truck and watched as he got to help feed and pet the bulls in a semi-controlled environment with an elevated level of risk.  He was talked to about the learning experience and was told about being careful and how dangerous bulls can be, etc.

Other friends and family who were not there scolded us and told us we were wrong to allow our son to have this valuable learning experience.  They went as far as to tell us about people they knew that had been killed by bulls and ask what we would have done, if he had been trampled.  I explained I would have called the ambulance, if needed.  This was the risk level and countermeasures that we as his parents chose.  When we were kids I have seen my own brother laid flat by a horse.  I know and understand the risks and can chose what risk level is appropriate for my child.

I then told about how he and his grandpa walked down the country row by themselves for about a quarter to half mile.  When they did not get upset about that I told them that they had captured some feral coyotes on that road the other night.  I then tried to get them to explain why that was not an issue, but petting the bulls was.  They were still stuck on the bulls, but coyotes with rabies as expectable.

When it comes to the internet there is an expectable risk level for my son and I talked to him about it and help him learn about what is dangerous and where and when he needs to be extra careful.  Why is it that we as parents forget that “TRAINING” is the most effective security measure you can ever provide?  Analysis, reports and parent provided controls will never be effect unless you also empower your child to make educated decisions.

The internet is not too risky for my child.  There are dangerous traps there and I am cretin that he will fall into some of them.  When he does I will be there to remind him why we fall.  We fall so that we can learn to pull ourselves back up.  An over protected child will never learn to pull himself back up.

The biggest risk for childern on the Internet is there own parents.  Parents must learn to start taking responsiblity and setting their own accetable risk levels for their own childrens activities.

Thanks...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Call me stupid if you want, but as an informational security professional and a father of a 3yr old.  There is an expectable risk level for my child and his activities.  Over the holidays we took him to a farm operated and managed by trusted family members.  We let him ride on the back of the feed truck and watched as he got to help feed and pet the bulls in a semi-controlled environment with an elevated level of risk.  He was talked to about the learning experience and was told about being careful and how dangerous bulls can be, etc.</p>
<p>Other friends and family who were not there scolded us and told us we were wrong to allow our son to have this valuable learning experience.  They went as far as to tell us about people they knew that had been killed by bulls and ask what we would have done, if he had been trampled.  I explained I would have called the ambulance, if needed.  This was the risk level and countermeasures that we as his parents chose.  When we were kids I have seen my own brother laid flat by a horse.  I know and understand the risks and can chose what risk level is appropriate for my child.</p>
<p>I then told about how he and his grandpa walked down the country row by themselves for about a quarter to half mile.  When they did not get upset about that I told them that they had captured some feral coyotes on that road the other night.  I then tried to get them to explain why that was not an issue, but petting the bulls was.  They were still stuck on the bulls, but coyotes with rabies as expectable.</p>
<p>When it comes to the internet there is an expectable risk level for my son and I talked to him about it and help him learn about what is dangerous and where and when he needs to be extra careful.  Why is it that we as parents forget that “TRAINING” is the most effective security measure you can ever provide?  Analysis, reports and parent provided controls will never be effect unless you also empower your child to make educated decisions.</p>
<p>The internet is not too risky for my child.  There are dangerous traps there and I am cretin that he will fall into some of them.  When he does I will be there to remind him why we fall.  We fall so that we can learn to pull ourselves back up.  An over protected child will never learn to pull himself back up.</p>
<p>The biggest risk for childern on the Internet is there own parents.  Parents must learn to start taking responsiblity and setting their own accetable risk levels for their own childrens activities.</p>
<p>Thanks&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Dwayne Tanner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dwayne Tanner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 15:16:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, I think the Times got it wrong but I have to wonder if they weren&#039;t played. Were we all duped with false numbers? 

http://www.dwaynetanner.com/blog/2009/02/09/are-we-all-so-easily-confused</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, I think the Times got it wrong but I have to wonder if they weren&#8217;t played. Were we all duped with false numbers? </p>
<p><a href="http://www.dwaynetanner.com/blog/2009/02/09/are-we-all-so-easily-confused" rel="nofollow">http://www.dwaynetanner.com/blog/2009/02/09/are-we-all-so-easily-confused</a></p>
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		<title>By: Michael Starks</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Starks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 14:46:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First, let me say that I&#039;m a father of a two-year old.  I am your typical over-protective parent with all the trimmings.

Now on to my comment: If there is less of a threat to children by online sexual predators, and numerous studies back that up, I think that&#039;s useful information.  If bullying is a bigger threat, I think that&#039;s useful information, too.

Knowing this stuff allows me as a parent to make better choices about how to protect my child.  It also allows us to focus resources where they matter most.

Using basic risk analysis, even if children are not as vulnerable to sexual predators as we once thought, these types of predators are probably still bigger risks because of the potential impact.  We can account and plan for that.

Information is power.  Knowing the truth allows us to make good choices.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First, let me say that I&#8217;m a father of a two-year old.  I am your typical over-protective parent with all the trimmings.</p>
<p>Now on to my comment: If there is less of a threat to children by online sexual predators, and numerous studies back that up, I think that&#8217;s useful information.  If bullying is a bigger threat, I think that&#8217;s useful information, too.</p>
<p>Knowing this stuff allows me as a parent to make better choices about how to protect my child.  It also allows us to focus resources where they matter most.</p>
<p>Using basic risk analysis, even if children are not as vulnerable to sexual predators as we once thought, these types of predators are probably still bigger risks because of the potential impact.  We can account and plan for that.</p>
<p>Information is power.  Knowing the truth allows us to make good choices.</p>
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